I’m just getting back to a mindset where I’m capable of blogging following the Dodd campaign. One of the issues that’s piqued my interest the last two days is Barack Obama’s effectively pro-Reagan comments during an editorial board meeting. Matt Stoller at Open Left has a rundown of links discussing Obama’s comments on Reagan, so I’m not going to go through them all here. One of the biggest problems that I have with Obama’s comments on Reagan is that he’s putting himself in line with the modern Republican Party’s historical canon, the media elite that bought pro-Reagan revisionism from the day he left office, and, ironically, the entire Republican presidential field.
For example, Mitt Romney was last seen tying himself closely to the legacy of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush following his victory in Michigan’s open primary (while avoiding mention of the current President Bush). He did so because Reagan presents the kind of image that Republican pols use to win over Republican base voters. Reagan is the sine qua non of contemporary Republican image making.
I tend to agree with Digby about why siddling up to Reagan is not a good thing for any Democrat, let alone the ostensibly more progressive of our two front-running presidential candidates, to do:
Reagan ran explicitly against the left(and in the process normalized the kind of indecent talk that made Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter millionaires.) Because he won big in 1984, leaders in both parties accepted this omnipotent Reagan myth and have run against liberalism ever since — and have ended up, through both commission and omission, advancing the destructive conservative policies that brought us to a place where we are debating things like torture. It would be helpful if ending the era of Democrats running against the liberal base could be part of this new progressive “trajectory.”
This is not to say that there aren’t lots of Sensible People who will look back on the Reagan era, forget all the things that made Reagan’s presidency horrible for America, and say, “Gee, Obama and Romney are right – we do need a President who will bring us together like Reagan did.” Just because they can say it about Reagan doesn’t make it true. Just because Reagan brought some people together doesn’t mean he did so in a positive way on admirable grounds.
Apparently, though, the co-opting of opposing party memes is not something only being done by Obama. Romney’s doing it too. Romney is now preaching a change for results message that Noah at The Right’s Field thinks may cause audiences to confuse him with none other than Barack Obama. Here’s Romney:
During a media availability, Romney told reporters Washington needs a leader who “will fight to make sure we resolve the issues rather than continuously look for partisan opportunities for score settling and for opportunities to link closer to lobbyists,” he said. “I don’t have lobbyists running my campaign.”
Noah notes that Romney “has recently been seen at rallies where his supporters hold up signs that say “Change Begins With Us.”
I think this is an attempt by Romney to appeal to the same collection of Sensible People who want shiny, happy politics where words don’t connect to policies and sound bites have no substantive recourse to history. “Change” is a buzz word unless it is met by substance to go along with it. I don’t trust Mitt Romney to offer one iota to of change from his Republican predecessors – even if he were competent he would not realize the sort of change he is preaching. On the other side, Obama has offered a great deal of substantive policy plans, but it would be hard for anyone to say with a straight face that these policy papers constitute substantive change from the politics engendered by any American President or political party over the last half century. I know many smart, savvy political minds that love Obama for the policy work his campaign is putting forward. Bully for Obama for winning them over on substantive grounds and for them looking to the beef of the Obama campaign and past its branding.
To circle back to Obama and Reagan, like Digby I don’t think this whole episode is a signifier that Obama is a Reaganite or a DLCer. Rather, this simply reveals him as someone who is at least occasionally out of touch with the realities of modern American politics vis a vis what our country needs and how it can be delivered.
In an email on the takeaways from the Obama/Reagan kerfuffle, HTML Mencken of Sadly, No! writes:
I reject any candidate or platform which does not explicitly rebel against current position of the Overton Window. A decent national politics rejects Reagan and Reaganism tout court; just because the Sensible Liberals in the 80s or their heirs in the DLC in the 90s didn’t do the right thing doesn’t mean that a candidate in 08 ought to be allowed to continue their tradition. The zeitgeist demands a Leftwing ascendence; the only way to do it correctly — to not waste an historical opportunity — is to proceed with a ‘bipartisanship is date-rape’ mentality; the only way to pop bubbles like Reagan’s is to stop shielding them at the same time with triangulations. Obama’s ‘postpartisan’ schtick has always struck me as rarified triangulation.
I think he’s right that we need Democrats to stand up for progressive movement values and recognize that because we are right, our leaders must stand up and steer our country. This is not the time to hold out a hand to any Republicans or independents and offer to move forward from the Bush years hand-in-hand towards a post-historical bipartisan bliss. Republicans have set the policies that have wrecked our country – from Iraq to a disastrous economy to gutted social services, Republicans are the authors of failed governance. There are culpable Democrats no doubt, but I’m less concerned about how progressive movementarians work with centrist and right-leaning Democrats than I am about ostensibly progressive Democrats rushing to embrace people who do not share their values. Now we need proud Democrats and the more proud, the better.
There is a vibrant, vital progressive movement that has arisen from the damage of the Bush years; a significant portion of that movement is taking place online. This movement can be a tremendous source of power for Democratic politicians who embrace it. To wit, Chris Dodd’s presidential campaign was sustained in the 4th quarter in large part because of the small dollar donations coming from the netroots following his committed leadership in standing against retroactive immunity for telecoms.
Just as a Republican President like George W. Bush has the ability to take a healthy, prosperous country and run it aground through endless war and class warfare via tax cuts, any Democratic President has the potential to do tremendously good things for our country because Democrats are right. When Barack Obama praises Reagan’s political skills, he misses the presence of the movement of people that will support him taking a progressive tack on governance. The country is ready and in sore need of proud Democratic leadership. It would be a crying shame if Obama failed to recognize this fact.
I don’t expect that Obama will ever agree with HTML Mencken about adopting a “bipartisanship is date rape” mentality. I don’t think that’s the worst thing in the world, because there can be types of bipartisanship that work. I have no problem with Republican legislators signing up to help pass progressive Democratic legislation. And that isn’t meant to be facetious. Pardon a second reference to the virtues of my previous employer, but Chris Dodd has made a career of bringing conservative Republicans to his side to turn progressive principles into law. The Family & Medical Leave Act, child care legislation, voting rights protections, and protecting investors form corporate malfeasance come to mind. The key in making those things happen, though, was Dodd being committed to solving a problem with a Democratic mindset.
So perhaps rather than citing Ronald Reagan, Obama should turn to his colleagues in the Senate like Dodd, Russ Feingold and Ted Kennedy who have made a career of bringing Republicans over to the Democratic side of issues to build consensus in our direction and do work that actually succeeds at shifting the Overton Window to enable future legislative efforts from an increasingly progressive standpoint.
I like your starting point: because we are ascendant we should credit that which makes us ascendant, our policies and beliefs. Its uncompromising exactly where it should be uncompromising.
That said, my feeling has always been that were it not for anti-Democratic fallacies, such as Democratic weakness on a litany of issues, many self-identified independents and Republicans would, in fact, be Democrats. Thus, while I can recognize the potential danger in attaching to the Reagan Myth teat, I’m also willing to entertain the possibility that Obama did so intentionally as a way of making it more tolerable for people who identify the Democratic Party negatively to accept Obama’s more-or-less fully Democratic platform. That is, part of the reason I like Obama is that many of the anti-Democratic slurs don’t stick to him the way they have to past Democrats and I support his effort to use that to grow the Democratic voting bloc.
Of course, my hope is that once these voters go black they’ll never go back. This is a risk. It’s possible that a pro-Reagan statement will permit the growth of a personality cult rather than a political party. My hope is that what will happen instead is that people who buy the Reagan-Qua-America-Savior meme will entertain the Obama-Qua-America-Savior potential AND attach to it the policies with which he proposes to do his saving.
Thus, the risk of a pro-Reagan statement is not necessarily one that compromises the principles ascendant with progressivism. In fact, it could really just be using a tired fallacy to the advantage of the party that has been victimized by it for so long. If voters want to come together “like they did with Reagan” (a pile of bull) and they’re willing to do it under a declared banner of progressive policies, I think I can support it. Just so long as we’re not transforming the progressive ascendance into a rerun of Reagan policies, I think we’ll be ok.
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I am bothered by Obama’s continued embrace of right-wing talking points.
I don’t know if he’s exhibiting naievete, stupidity or a conservative streak. But I do not buy the idea that he’s being incredibly shrewd.
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Austin,
I don’t doubt that Obama might find some benefit in reaching out to moderate Republicans and independents by praising Reagan. But we’re in the middle of a Democratic primary – one that is entirely up in the air. Tacking to the right now by associating himself with this flock of GOP candidates’ archetype is beyond puzzling.
And yes, I’d love to see a scenario where more people were comfortable identifying their issue beliefs with the Democratic brand. I just don’t think that you achieve that by sneaking up to them under the cover of Reagan, and getting them to vote for you. I don’t believe that you can then count on the next politician branding himself as an heir to Reagan (not saying Obama has done this, just playing out Austin’s argument) from failing to take these recently minted voters from the Democratic Party.
Instead the best way to win voters is to be the winning brand. Be proud. Show spine. Kick dirt in the face of all comers and set the tone so every thinks going into any fight, the Dems will come out on top. Do all of this while standing on principle for what we believe in and you will make someone want to vote for you, make them value what they believe and give them an outlet for identifying themselves with a larger effort to do good in this country.
My $0.02…
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Lisa –
Progressives online have been bothered by quite a few instances where Obama spoke and adopted a GOP frame. Think back to his famous first diary at Daily Kos — he tacked against the tone on blogs and succeeded in pissing a lot of people off. Is it worth nothing that he has only posted one other diary at DKos since then — a response to his first diary.
I won’t hazard to guess how deliberate Obama’s occasional comments that trigger outrage are. I think they’re probably less informative than other structural aspects of his campaign vis a vis the netroots. Regardless, it’s more important that Obama is a Democrat than he is a Democrat with a fuzzy relationship with the netroots. The proof is in the pudding and Obama’s voting record is generally, though not universally, solid.
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Amen. Just amen.
Thank you.
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Matt hates the Unity Pony. I think we need to put him on a list, for later.
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